@ygalanter @krans @vincent also, one thing I appreciate about the bsky team is that they are explicit that they view the future company as an adversary and are building with that in mind. That's important. They're not only not controlled by a billionaire, they're building so that they *can't* be controlled by a billionaire.

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The bsky team view the future company as an adversary... because the future company might implement a moderation policy. No, really!

As @davidgerard notes, they're trying to build a site where the extreme right cannot be pushed off, that's the explicit goal.

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@hollowleviathan @mmasnick @ygalanter@hachyderm.io @krans @vincent @davidgerard They also don't speak of BS and AT Proto as if they will exist outside of "the company", which is really rich coming from a supposedly "decentralized" product. They certainly intend it to be financially centralized.

All they're really saying is that the future company ethos might be at odds with the current one. I read that as a promise of enshittification as this for-profit startup tries to monetize their creation.

@Alex @hollowleviathan @mmasnick @ygalanter @krans @vincent yep. you can own your own "node" on a reasonable ubuntu server, but not the central directory service required for it to run.

i have repeatedly asked the bsky guys what the actual loadout is to run bluesky as a standalone service. this appears to be information they really don't want to let loose.

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